Those Extra Touches
Nov. 10th, 2004 08:01 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
eggwardsIt's time to fill in a few gaps from last night's loooong post about talking politics with my folks (thanks if you actually read all that, I didn't realize how much I wrote until later, and yet, I missed points!).
So, yeah, I pretty much preached to my folks. I'll admit that I didn't allow them to really debate the facts, and I wasn't really looking for their opinion on gay marriage, and gay issues. I guess I should look for their feelings a little more, and allow for more discussion. My mom seems a little more open on the subject, and did try to engage me a couple of times, but Dad stayed pretty quiet.
Dad's still having trouble with this, and I know it will take time. I don't know if he wants or needs help. We'll just have to see, I just need to watch a little more carefully.
One thing I said before I left my parent's house is to watch the Texas legislature. In the great wisdom of our forefathers, our government officials are notoriously weak in this state, because they weren't trusted. The governor can't do much of anything, and the legislature can only meet on odd years and only for a prescribed number of days unless the term is extended by the governor.
So with all of the religious fervor about the same-sex marriage amendments being tossed around this year, the Texas legislature didn't get to play with the big boys, and our legislators didn't get to fully "protect marriage" from those who would challenge the DOMA law that was already on the books.
Monday was the first day to file bills for the 2005 legislative session in Texas, and certainly not ones to think that the parade has passed them by, there it was. The Houston Chronicle has the story.
One problem that Dad and I did agree on was the disturbing fact that there are several evangelical Christians that are getting into politics that don't care about creating wars, slashing social programs and letting the federal deficit go wild because they don't think they'll ever have to be held accountable for it.
How do they think they can have such hubris? Ahh, because they think they won't be here anymore. No, not because of a terrorist attack, or the idea of a Hilary Clinton presidency, but because they will be lifted up to meet their Lord and Savior.
There's a growing number of people who are convinced that the end times are occurring (isn't George W. Bush enough?) and the Rapture will occur in '08, so why worry about the rest of the world? (of corse the Myan calendar ends in 2012, so they may be off a couple of years)You can see a speculative timeline here. And here's another site.
So pollution, the poor, social security, dwindling resources, oil, these aren't their problems, since they are saved. Personally I can't wait for New Year's Day 2009 to be able to turn to these folks and waive at them.
It's good that Dad and I can at least agree on kooks.
So, yeah, I pretty much preached to my folks. I'll admit that I didn't allow them to really debate the facts, and I wasn't really looking for their opinion on gay marriage, and gay issues. I guess I should look for their feelings a little more, and allow for more discussion. My mom seems a little more open on the subject, and did try to engage me a couple of times, but Dad stayed pretty quiet.
Dad's still having trouble with this, and I know it will take time. I don't know if he wants or needs help. We'll just have to see, I just need to watch a little more carefully.
One thing I said before I left my parent's house is to watch the Texas legislature. In the great wisdom of our forefathers, our government officials are notoriously weak in this state, because they weren't trusted. The governor can't do much of anything, and the legislature can only meet on odd years and only for a prescribed number of days unless the term is extended by the governor.
So with all of the religious fervor about the same-sex marriage amendments being tossed around this year, the Texas legislature didn't get to play with the big boys, and our legislators didn't get to fully "protect marriage" from those who would challenge the DOMA law that was already on the books.
Monday was the first day to file bills for the 2005 legislative session in Texas, and certainly not ones to think that the parade has passed them by, there it was. The Houston Chronicle has the story.
One problem that Dad and I did agree on was the disturbing fact that there are several evangelical Christians that are getting into politics that don't care about creating wars, slashing social programs and letting the federal deficit go wild because they don't think they'll ever have to be held accountable for it.
How do they think they can have such hubris? Ahh, because they think they won't be here anymore. No, not because of a terrorist attack, or the idea of a Hilary Clinton presidency, but because they will be lifted up to meet their Lord and Savior.
There's a growing number of people who are convinced that the end times are occurring (isn't George W. Bush enough?) and the Rapture will occur in '08, so why worry about the rest of the world? (of corse the Myan calendar ends in 2012, so they may be off a couple of years)You can see a speculative timeline here. And here's another site.
So pollution, the poor, social security, dwindling resources, oil, these aren't their problems, since they are saved. Personally I can't wait for New Year's Day 2009 to be able to turn to these folks and waive at them.
It's good that Dad and I can at least agree on kooks.
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Date: 2004-11-10 06:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-10 06:56 am (UTC)Sort of like when speaking about gays in the bible, they always quote the old testament, yet ignore the entire "NEW" section speaking about treating everyone fairly (specifically in regards to Mary Magdalen, but generally to anyone.)
Personally, I wish the end would come just so they can get slapped upside the head for reading too much into a clearly pacifist manifesto. :P
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Date: 2004-11-10 07:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-10 10:13 am (UTC)Your co-workers are idiots! :)
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Date: 2004-11-10 11:02 am (UTC)I think it's cool you can at least can communitate with your folks. My family didn't really discuss politics much other than calling republican's names. LOL!
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Date: 2004-11-10 02:51 pm (UTC)Wow. I'm *really* going to hell for that one. >:D
Really? I haven't heard anyone say that it'd happen in '08 before... Tons about the world ending the day before my 32nd birthday though, heh.